West Coast Detail Supply
10-30-2008, 08:13 PM
Brand new to Exceletail.com! And we're excited! Maybe, just maybe a clay alternative? Surf City Beyond Clay (http://www.prestostore.com/cgi-bin/store.pl?ref=exceldetail&ct=46929). Results look promising! This has become Surf City Garages best selling product for the last 2 months, and Im certainly happy to have it in stock in 8oz trial sizes. Surf City Beyond Clay will retail for $14.99.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a304/exceldetail/Surf%20City/BeyondClay8oz.jpg
Here's a little description for your review:
Beyond Clay makes a clay bar obsolete. Just use a low-speed buffer, and Beyond Clay does everything a clay bar does plus so much more:
Removes surface contaminants
Removes overspray
Removes surface oxidation
Removes swirl marks
Removes light scratches
Deep cleans and polishes paint
Restores faded paint to original gloss
And unlike a clay bar, Beyond Clay never scratches your paint, and its 100% safe for all surfaces, including clearcoats.
Directions for Use:
Tools required: Low-speed or orbital buffer. (1) Wash car to remove surface dirt. (2) Shake bottle thoroughly. (3) Squeeze out a small amount of product onto car surface. (4) Take a low-speed or orbital buffer with a foam pad. Do not switch on. Move the buffer back and forth to spread product across pad. (5) Now, switch buffer on and move slowly across surface. Apply more product as needed and wipe excess product off with a microfiber towel. Repeat until entire surface has been buffed.
Surf City Beyond Clay (http://www.prestostore.com/cgi-bin/store.pl?ref=exceldetail&ct=46929&pd=301857) actually removes contaminants, oxidation and light swirls. 2 products in one. Everything a polish and clay can do, in one bottle. It also contains light protectants for immediate protection. I recommend following up with your favorite sealant or wax.
BlueZero
10-31-2008, 09:43 AM
Looks interesting! Anyone used it yet?
West Coast Detail Supply
11-07-2008, 07:54 AM
Its going to get a thorough review tomorrow on a NBP TL.
smokin
11-08-2008, 06:22 AM
Please let us know. THANK YOU:cool:
twitch
11-08-2008, 08:57 PM
Interested as well... :cool:
West Coast Detail Supply
11-12-2008, 08:31 AM
Warm one in Hollywood today, about 10 degrees warmer then I care for, period.
I client of mine since he first bought his 04 NBP, last time I saw him was March, before that was Jan 07. So I usually get the TL twice annually. I had picked up some Four Star Scratch and Swirl Mark Remover at the shop yesterday, in hopes of doing a little write up on it, however, things just didnt get that far today.
I was also going to do a write up on the Surf City Beyond Clay. I figured I would do 1/2 the hood or rear deck, then finish with traditional methods as a time saver. I know nothing about the SC BC, other then what SC reps have conveyed to me.
The entire TL was washed with two buckets of NRWS prior to detailing.
First the makers claims, followed by my experience on this NBP TL:
Removes surface contaminants, YES
Removes overspray, None to remove/speak of.
Removes surface oxidation, YES
Removes swirl marks, YES
Removes light scratches, YES
Deep cleans and polishes paint, YES.
Restores faded paint to original gloss, YES
I have to admit, I was very apprehensive about this product. I seriously was only prepared to "sample" it. Its applied very much in the same manner as one would use a polish. I used a UDM, and a black 5.5" Erasure, on about speed 4+.
Applied 4 small pinky sized dots, rubbed on surface, then "clayed" away. I started with 1/2 the rear deck, then checked the results. The deck area was in the shade when I applied and removed. I have to admit, its not as easy as a sealant or Optimum polish to remove, more so like removing a paint cleaner. Just a tad stubborn (more on this later). I found the Titan Shag towel worked much better as compared to a short napped MF (Supreme). The results were better then anticipated. The surface was very smooth. I compared to the untouched side of the deck for comparison, and there was a significant difference. But the real difference was in what it had done to this starved NBP paint. If I could rate the swirls on this vehicle from 1-5, I would give this TL a 3.9. After the SC Beyond Clay, I noticed a definite return of depth and flake, and the light swirls were nearly gone. All of this in one step?
So I moved onto the hood, where it was partially in the sun. I thought "what the hell, I need to know how this stuff works." So....
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a304/exceldetail/Sage%2011-8-08/beforewith1beyondclaypass.jpg
I didnt notice the product drying out upon application, or caking, but I kept making passes to insure a good test base. I made about 5 up/down passes with the 5.5 black Erasure. One thing I noticed upon removal, it was much easier in the sun?! Im no chemist but for whatever the reason, it was about 40% easier to remove in the sun which is kind of unusual. The following pics are after removal of the one (pictured above) pass. Now with NBP, you have to look closely at the changes, as the camera just doesnt quite capture "reality".
Heres a few pics, and if you look closely enough, you will see the difference.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a304/exceldetail/Sage%2011-8-08/afterbeyondclay4.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a304/exceldetail/Sage%2011-8-08/afterbeyondlay.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a304/exceldetail/Sage%2011-8-08/afterbeyondclay3.jpg
In the first two pics, the sun is at the upper edge of the Beyond Clay pass. The 3rd pic shows the difference pretty good though.
I was so impressed by the Surf City Beyond Clay, I did the entire car with it. I did move to a 4" black Erasure however to accommodate the TL's curves and corners, and provide a thorough cleaning. A quick word on the "claying" benefits of Surf City Beyond Clay, the surface, as far as I could tell, was every bit as as slick as claying. With the added benefit of polishing attributes, this is a keeper in my arsenal. Considering you clay and polish in one step is phenomenal for me. Plus theres no risk of marring with this, its actually quite the opposite.
Results, obviously will vary with the users techniques, paint colors, and overall "before" appearance of the paint your working on. Now on to some additional before and after pics.
The TL was sealed up with Surf City Nano Seal, which is an absolute pleasure to use. Less oily then FS UPP which would explain why I used about twice as much. Super easy to remove (and apply). Only REQUIRES 20-30 minute set time (same as UPP). Ideally, 24 hrs for the Nano Seal. A very buttery/creamy texture, smells pleasant as well. Leave a super slik surface, great compliment to the SC BC.
Total time, 5 hrs inside and out.......
twitch
11-12-2008, 08:52 AM
Very interesting write up and results Patrick, thanks!
Curious on your choice of pad too. Did you select the black pad due to the soft honda black paint? How do you think the product would work with a white pad... maybe a bit more correction??
West Coast Detail Supply
11-13-2008, 09:00 AM
Ya know I was going to go with white after this trial pass, and I gigured the black was working so well I stayed with it! I would assume there would be a little more correction with white or orange.
Deep Gloss Auto Salon
11-13-2008, 12:14 PM
Did you test for any filling with this product?
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