portercable orbital buffer plz help

[unique autodetaling]

hey is the pc safe i hear it wont burn thru paint but is a professinal buffer that ive seen works great and pros use plz let me know im thinking baout purchasin this kit in the summer http://www.superiorcarcare.net/popocapoprki.html

[bert31]

The porter cable is a fine machine and is very safe. Pull up You Tube and put something along the lines of "Porter Cable 7424" in the search and a few dozen videos will come up showing you how to polish properly with the 7424.

The kit has some pretty good items in it. My question would be, is 6.5 inches too big for the orange cutting pad? When polishing with a dual action polisher like the PC, to get the "cut" to remove swirls, you may need to push down on the PC to get a little more aggressive. If the pad is too large, it will bog down the PC. With a smaller pad (five inches or less), you can push down getting the cut you need but not bog down the polisher due to the smaller pad having less surface area.

You could probably give the kit a try and see how it does removing the swirls. I am sure it will improve them at a bare minimum. If you have some swirls left over and they were not improved enough to satisfy you, you could aways order a 4 inch orange pad from somewhere.

[unique autodetaling]

ok ima be starting my own detail biz ima noob what do you do first strip the wax?? then polish use swilr remover then seal the paint with like klasse sealent then use a good wax????

[bert31]

ok ima be starting my own detail biz ima noob

Being a noob, you may want to learn some more by reading on this forum and others and get some practice on you own car. I have been doing this for 1.5 years and I wouldn't say I know enough to start a detailing business.

what do you do first strip the wax??

Stripping the wax is optional but if you want to do it, there are some washes that will do it for you (Chemical Guys Citrus Wash and Clear, Finish Care's 1119 Soil and Coating Remover/Wax and Detail Pre Cleaner or Auto International's A in the ABC products) or you can just spray some All Purpose Cleaner (APC) on the wetted paint before washing or mix the APC in the wash water.

then polish use swilr remover then seal the paint with like klasse sealent then use a good wax????

After using a swirl remover and a cutting pad like Poorboys SSR 2.5 and Lake Country's Orange Pad you will want to follow up with something milder like a finish polish and a polishing pad such as Poorboys SSR 1 and a Lake Country White Pad (I am purposely using the products in the kit you mentioned above).

After polishing, I like to wash the car before applying an AIO or glaze then my LSP whether that be a sealant or wax.

Again, I would really recommend spending some time on here and other forums reading and learning as much as you can before doing this for money.

[unique autodetaling]

thanks bert for all ur help i worte back on the other thread i posted wel live beendetaling cars with a polisher for like a year so ive got the biz ppl like my work but i wanan get more professional and do highend cars that are around me such as bmw porshe inifity which i own lol g35coupe im gonnab e fully inusred so

[bert31]

thanks bert for all ur help i worte back on the other thread i posted wel live beendetaling cars with a polisher for like a year so ive got the biz ppl like my work but i wanan get more professional and do highend cars that are around me such as bmw porshe inifity which i own lol g35coupe im gonnab e fully inusred so

Gotcha. I had assumed you have never picked up a polisher, sorry about that. Keep in mind with your car, Infinity's are known for really soft paint so you will want to start out with the polishing pad (such as the white pad) rather than the cutting pad (orange). The white pad with a compound may be enough to remove the Infinity's swirl marks. The orange pad my be over kill. If you use the white pad on a test spot and the swirls do not go away, you can always step up to the orange pad.

[unique autodetaling]

ya i know its weird but ya thnaks for the tip i used a polisher with just 1 speed i used meguires 3step process it came out rly nice but in the light at night theres swirl marks i wanan get rid of that, thanks for all your help, im sorry if i come across as a pain i aprciate all your help im just confused with the steps correct me if im wrong

wash
clay (optional)
swirl remover (if needed)
polish
use a type of sealent that u can wax over
wax??

[bert31]

ya i know its weird but ya thnaks for the tip i used a polisher with just 1 speed i used meguires 3step process it came out rly nice but in the light at night theres swirl marks i wanan get rid of that, thanks for all your help, im sorry if i come across as a pain i aprciate all your help im just confused with the steps correct me if im wrong

wash
clay (optional)
swirl remover (if needed)
polish
use a type of sealent that u can wax over
wax??

You're not a pain, your a noob.:)

I don't know if I would make clay an optional step. Getting bonded contaminents off the paint before polishing is very important. I clayed my car about two months ago and I needed to polish my car today, I would stay clay the entire car first.

You put two question marks next to wax. Is the question do you need a wax or what waxes to do I recommend. Do you need a wax, no. Will it give your car a better look, maybe, I really don't know. I have always used sealants but next spring I am tempted to try a wax over the sealant.

As far as good waxes that are inexpensive($15-$50): Danase Classic Wax, Poorboys Natty's Wax (all three Red, Blue or White), ClearKote Carnauaba Moose Wax, P21S 100% Carnuaba, Victoria's Wax,

($51-$100)Pinnacle Souveran Paste Wax

($100+) Dodo Juice Supernatural, the various waxes sold by Swissvax and Zymol.

[unique autodetaling]

ok thanks so did i get the steps correct?? agian thnaks for the help now is it good to mix products like danase and poorboys id like to use all one brand so as far as danase for mystarter kit what products should i buy?? and same for poorboys would you recomend me buying that pc kit with the poorboys products and then getting some danse glaze and sealent???

[bert31]

ok thanks so did i get the steps correct?? agian thnaks for the help now is it good to mix products like danase and poorboys id like to use all one brand so as far as danase for mystarter kit what products should i buy?? and same for poorboys would you recomend me buying that pc kit with the poorboys products and then getting some danse glaze and sealent???

You can mix up brands all you want. The last time I did a full detail, here is what I used:

APC - P21S Total Autowash

Wash - Chemical Guys Citrus Wash and Gloss

Clay - Sonus Ultrafine Clay

Paint Cleaner - Sonus Paint Cleaner (this is an unnecessary step, I probably won't do this again, just trying to use up the rest of the product.)

Polish - Meguiars 105 Ultra Cut Compound on a Lake Country Purple Foamed Wool followed by Menzerna Super Intensive Polish on Edge Blue Wool followed by Menzerna Nano Polish on Edge White Foam (Keep in mind I used a rotary. I would probably not use this combo with a dual action polisher).

All-In-One - Jeff's Werkstat Prime

Sealant - Jeff's Werkstat Acrylic Jett

Glaze - Danase Wet Glaze.

Then put another coat of sealant on top.

I am always trying new products so that means I am using a half dozen different brands.

If you want to stay with the starter kit and add Danase Wet Glaze and Danase Paint Sealant and Danase Detailing Clay, you will be fine to do so. Like I said, I mix and match all the time.

[unique autodetaling]

ok ya ill do that i mena it cant be beat rly it comes thre pads black,whiteand orange 2microfibertowels well u saw the kit ill buy that and the danse wet glaze and paint sealent and i have meguires claybar so im good with that, now i just need to get the steps down thats where i rly need help and i ment to ask you i could just use dish soap to strip off the old wax and sealent right?? i just ask cuz im sure ima get customes that have had there cars done b4 but once u hit it with swirl remover and sealent all you rly have to do is do the up keep with occasinal wax right agian thanks so much for your help

[bert31]

and i ment to ask you i could just use dish soap to strip off the old wax and sealent right?? i just ask cuz im sure ima get customes that have had there cars done b4 but once u hit it with swirl remover and sealent all you rly have to do is do the up keep with occasinal wax right agian thanks so much for your help

If you want to use dish soap, OK, just don't make a habit of it with the same car over and over again.

[unique autodetaling]

ok ya i dont know if i intorduced myself im shawn i cant thank you enough for all your help i had no idea how much products where involved

[West Coast Detail Supply]

Careful when purchasing "kits". They are often comprised of product that are not necessary, and when you though you were saving, you actually spent good money, on "nothing"......
Your best off seeking advice of products, then either finding a kit containing those products, or just purchasing them seperately.

[unique autodetaling]

hey thanks so did u see the kit its got the poorboys products with it

[West Coast Detail Supply]

But just because it has PB's in it doesnt mean its right for you.

[unique autodetaling]

true but i do need it it comes with the swirl remover after the swirl remover i need a good polish and sealent