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OCDetails
04-20-2010, 09:26 AM
In January of 2007 I gave myself a challenge. I decided that I was going to take everything I had been learning about detailing for the past ten years and really put it to the test. So I sold my car in January and committed to detailing enough that year that I would be able to buy another car before the end of the year. I put $8000 from the sale of my car in the bank and started working. Well, I had to wait for it to stop snowing first, but as soon as spring arrived I started working my butt off.

I figured I would need more than just my regulars and and their few referrals, so I decided it was time to branch out and start using some other techniques. So I dusted off a couple things I had tried in the past and really put them to work. The most effective technique I used is what I'm posting about now.

Most of you are probably familiar with the internet's awesome yard sale known as Craigslist. There really isn't anything to compare it to other than the classifieds in your local paper. You can advertise jobs, services, stuff, and just about anything else you can think of. The best thing about Craigslist is that you can create your ads in html and really make them stand out. Take a look at your local Craigslist site and see what othe detailers are advertising. Chances are that they look like this:

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k164/OCDinSLC/clpost1.jpg

That is what the average detailing service post on my local Craigslist looks like anyway, and clearly they look like that in Atlanta too. My guess is it doesn't look much different wherever you go.

So while that guy may or may not get many hits, that type of post shows some very important facts:

1. He isn’t professional enough to have a website he can post.
2. He is not professional enough to have proof of his skill in the form of before /after pictures.
3. He doesn’t have to give a full list of his services, but you definitely want to post more than he did.
4. If you are going to post such scant details, then at least don’t capitalize every other word. It makes you look like a teenager. I’m surprised he didn’t use texting lingo in the posting too.
5. The word ‘We’ is mentioned, but I get the impression that there is no ‘We’ in his operation. Be honest and never imply that you are more than you are.
6. There isn’t even a name for his business listed. How legitimate can you be if you haven’t even got a name yet?

The list could go on for everything that is wrong with that particular posting. I'm not going to say that I do everything right or that I am a marketing genius or anything, but I definitely can suggest some ways to do it a little bit better than that.

Here is what one of my craigslist ads would look like.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k164/OCDinSLC/clpost2.jpg

That says quite a bit about the business. Look at the things we have corrected on the short list of errors the other ad has.

1. There is a website URL posted for you to get more information.
2. Behold the before/after pictures.
3. More details about the services are listed and even more in the URL.
4. I'm pretty sure my posting is fairly grammatically correct.
5. I'm not implying there are any other employees other than myself that you will be dealing with.
6. Name? Check!

That isn't all that this ad does. It is designed much better than just plain text. Because Craigslist allows you to use HTML you can do quite a bit. I used a very simple template that required little effort to modify for my purpose. All of the images are hosted on Photobucket (http://s88.photobucket.com/home/OCDinSLC/allalbums) for free. You can check out the album if you want to grab the graphics and use the same templates if you want.

In addition to being a better looking ad, there is another thing that designing your Craigslist postings like this can do for you. Do you see the navigation at the top? That Oxidation - Swirls - Engines - Interiors - Contact Us aren't just graphics. They are true navigation buttons. What do they navigate to you might ask? OTHER CRAIGSLIST ADS. http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif Lemme 'splain.

Craigslist is ridiculously search engine optimized. When I have my ads running and you go to google to search for Salt Lake City Detailers, you find my ads. So there is definite benefit to having as much search engine food in Craigslist as possible. So what I do is post on other area Craigslists different pages of my "Craigslist Site". In Salt Lake I’ll post one page and in the Ogden one I’ll post another page. In Provo I’ll post another one. I’ll use as many of the regional Craigslist pages and beyond until I’ve got everything up there. The reason for this is because if I posted all five pages in the Salt Lake Craigslist then they’d get deleted as being duplicates and all my work is ruined. It doesn’t really matter where they are posted since you are going to link them all together anyway.

Once you have your five ads posted, you’ll need to go back to each one and update the navigation buttons with the corresponding Craigslist ad. Without an HTML editor like Dreamweaver I suppose that could be kind of a pain, but it really isn’t too tricky. It is absolutely worth the effort. What you are left with is a network of Craigslist ads which are essentially your own little website. Click Here (http://www.ocdetails.com/craigslist) to see what it looks like all linked together. I haven’t posted this on Craigslist for two very important reasons.

1. Because it is not useful to link to things that will expire when you want the thread to be a resource for a long time to come.
2. Because it is winter right now and the last thing I want is a hundred phone calls of people wanting me to come out and detail their car in 20 degree weather. http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif

I do want you to see how it all looks though, so definitely check it out. I haven’t protected the right click or anything, so feel free to take the source code and use it as your own. The images in the Photobucket album should help you out and I would recommend you build something similar. Separate the images into corresponding page named folders for easy sorting and go from there. Even if you don’t have a website, this can be your first one. http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif

Craigslist isn’t the only site that you can do this on either. There are other places that you can go to. Here are some other tools that will come in handy as you search for other ways to leverage free websites to grow your client base:

Craigslist Ad Maker, Craigslist Ad Creator, Craigslist Ad Generator (http://www.craigslistadmaker.com/)
Custom Classified Ads | Listing Doctor | Custom Craigslist (http://www.listing-doctor.com/)
Slozzle is a FREE Craiglist Ad Maker! (http://www.slozzle.com/)
Post Classified Ads | Targeted Online Ads (http://www.classifiedflyerads.com/)
postlets | home (http://www.postlets.com/)
vFlyer - Redirect (http://www.vflyer.com/)

I hope this guide was useful. Beware the power of using the information in this article. If you post an ad like this, you had better be prepared to receive the volume. Some of my largest clients came from my Craigslist ads.

Oh, I almost forgot to tell you the end of the story. So in 2007 I sold my car in January and committed to detail my heart out until I could buy a new one with my detailing profits. I bought a motorcycle in February to use to go back and forth to work and my wife and I shared the Pilot for everything else. I put $8000 in the bank from the sale of my car and in September I paid $15,000 cash for the car I drive now. Other than the $8000 from the car I sold, the other $7000 was generated through detailing. That may not be a lot, but I also have a family and a full time job as well as another business that I run to keep on top of, so I'd say $7000 profit after taxes and expenses is pretty darn good for realistically six months of detailing season in Utah. The detailing season wasn’t even over yet and I generated additional revenue in October during my Fall Detailing Blitz. That was also due to a brief (only two weeks prior) of advertising for that on Craigslist and with an email blast to the customers I detailed for earlier that year.

As a result of the new clients earned in 2007 I still haven’t had to post anything on Craigslist to keep the business going. Granted in 2009 I slowed down a ton because of another business I started, but I didn’t have to advertise at all in 2008 or 2009 to keep the cars coming in. It all comes from some well made Craigslist ads that were head and shoulders above the competition. Even the ones who throw in pictures of their work will not look as impressive as your site will with a little proper design work. Good luck! Post your results!

EDIT:

One resource I forgot to mention is where you can find templates. I like freetemplatesonline.com for that. There are a a million different templates that are easy to modify. The key to this strategy is the text in your ad. If you don't have words for Google to see, then you won't get the search hits. Just uploading pictures won't do you any good at all. It might make you stand out from others who just put text up, but someone who uploads a big image of their services is just like someone who just uploads text. It is a good idea, but poorly executed. Find a good template that you can edit and you'll get much better results. http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif

mrclrider
04-21-2010, 03:27 AM
Thank you so much! I will be referencing this post quite a bit this weekend!!

sal329
04-21-2010, 02:27 PM
Thank you that was great info I hope I can figure it alll now lol

smokin
04-21-2010, 04:00 PM
OC Details thank you that was very cool of you. Thanks for taking the time to post.

OCDetails
04-21-2010, 07:34 PM
:) Hopefully it is useful info. Craigslist is a great resource when you want to get the word out. If you are tired of competing with every 16 year old who is armed with a bucket and a bottle of turtle wax, then you can start by doing a little better advertising. By using even the template that I'm using, you can easily create a micro website entirely hosted on a free photo album and Craigslist. Why not do it? Whenever I want to fill a couple weekends up I'll bust out the ad and start making appointments. Then I wait for it to fall to the bottom of the list and let the residual referrals and calls keep me busy the rest of the summer. I don't even have to post this bad boy more than once. That is the beauty of it! Just be sure that your competition doesn't report it five times a minute and get the ad shut down. As long as you aren't posting on the same page of Craigslist for the same area then you will never have that problem. Post one page in as many areas as you can service and leave the rest to Google and the people who use the search button. :)

sal329
04-22-2010, 06:20 AM
I'm so not computer savy I hope eventually I can figure out the templates and all lol

OCDetails
04-22-2010, 09:19 AM
I guess I should preface it by saying that it isn't hard if you have a basic understanding of html and template tweaking. ;) If you don't have access to an html editor, then it probably isn't going to work for you. You would need to know quite a bit about html to edit the template I used if you aren't using something like Dreamweaver or another program like that. I believe Microsoft offers Sharepoint for free if you go to their site to download it. That would work too.

Dave
04-22-2010, 10:55 PM
Very useful post.....maybe I'll make it a sticky in the business section.

sal329
04-23-2010, 02:12 PM
Wish I had the funds I would pay for your help

jdmser
04-29-2010, 08:28 AM
I have to talk to my web guy about doing something like that for me. That looks great.

sal329
05-02-2010, 04:11 PM
Ok I spent all day working on it and once again I say I am not good on the comp this is what I came up with for my first try
http://greensboro.craigslist.org/aos/1721312821.html

doctordon
05-02-2010, 04:50 PM
Sal,

Look at how many times the word "I" or "my" is used in your advertisement. As a suggestion, change the wording so it is about the customer's benefits.

Here is a quick edit I did based on some of your advertisement:

You will be extremely proud and delighted by the services provided by Diamond Auto Details because we do detailing the right way!

You can choose from several levels of detailing from a basic wash to full polishing. Only reputable products, highly regarded by the detailing community, are used on your vehicle. The service performed is tailored to the individual car and desires of the owner. Your car is treated as if it were my own.

Your car will look like new and our services will help save and protect your automotive investment. You will learn how to wash your car (or have it washed) safely minimizing scratching of car or truck. Select one of our Full Care Detailing packages where your car is put on a regular detailing schedule. Any level of detailing can be included, with different levels performed at different time intervals.

This was just a quick rough draft. It should be about what the benefits the customer is receiving. Remember most customers don't know the difference between a swirl and a squirrel (quote is attributed to Mike Phillips) so leave out any detailing terms.

No disrespect is intended with this suggestion.

sal329
05-02-2010, 04:52 PM
No disrespect taken I need all the help I can get. This was my first attempt. I can sell as I have been number #1 in sales at all my jobs but marketing and writing about myself/company I am not so good lol. I stayed away from the word we because I want people to know this is me not a big shop

OCDetails
05-05-2010, 02:03 PM
That is definitely a great start. That looks a million times better than if you just put a block of text and uploaded a couple pictures. What you have there looks much more professional. The way it is worded only tells me that you don't write technical manuals or edit a newspaper for a living. That isn't a bad thing. I'd rather someone be really good at the technical aspect of detailing my car regardless of how well they wrote. The bottom line is that people are going to make judgments based on how well they perceive the writing to be, but the good news is that most people can't even diagram a sentence let alone give educated feedback on how well someone's advertisement is written. I've seen "professionals" write more poorly than what you have written there, so you should be proud of it.

The feedback I would give you is that the thought process seems really scattered. One second you are talking about how good you are, then you go on to talk about your products and process, then you talk a little more about how good you are, then you ask a question that doesn't sound like a question... It just needs to be smoothed out a bit. Break it into multiple paragraphs with each one focusing on a single concept. Write one about your skills, then write about your process, then write about the results. Sort of like writing a year end review on your accomplishments. What was the problem, what did you do about it, and what was the overall impact of your solution. You would just want to add a little bio about yourself into that equation and you'll be all set. :)

Overall I think you have done a great job. I'm really interested to find out how it works out for you. It is a much more attractive ad than any other detailer in your area I'm sure. I mean, come on... Here is your competition:

http://greensboro.craigslist.org/aos/1725781420.html

http://greensboro.craigslist.org/aos/1718259333.html

I love this one. http://greensboro.craigslist.org/aos/1714063788.html A picture that is three years old, not even a full picture of a car in lighting that is too dark to even tell that it is reflecting, and a picture of the side of a Harley that probably could have been achieved using windex since it is just chrome being shown. Yeah, showing pictures of a chrome airbox is really a testament of someone's skills. lol

http://greensboro.craigslist.org/aos/1706537035.html

http://greensboro.craigslist.org/aos/1680657057.html

The list goes on and on. You are in a market that is fairly saturated with guys walking around with buckets and bottles of Turtle Wax. You need to do what you can to make yourself appear as professional and skilled as possible. Honestly, if I were in your market I would take advantage of the fact that most of the other detailers seem to be fairly inexperienced and can't show any pictures of their work. Post as many pictures of different jobs as you can on your blog so people can see that you don't just have experience detailing your Mom's Camry and your girlfriend's Volkswagen or something like that. Don't post 30 pictures of the same car, but rather post 30 pictures of 30 different cars you've detailed to show that you have been trusted by more than just family and friends to detail for them. It is important for the hobbiest detailer to show some credibility by displaying your work. My blog is kind of different since I'm using it for education and not so much for promotion of my business, but I put the Pictures page on there so I could show off some of the work. A customer can go there and tell that I've got some experience and that is something they aren't going to see from other Craigslist detailers like the ones I just posted. lol I think you'll do really well with your ad considering the competition. Just make sure you are doing everything you can to make yourself stand out as an experienced detailer by posting as many (current) pictures of cars as you can. If there is a time/date stamp on it, then crop that out or don't post it. That is just funny that they couldn't find a picture more recent than 3 years ago when they supposedly 'specialize' in boats and RVs. lol

sal329
05-05-2010, 05:15 PM
Awesome info thank you. So far I posted it Sunday and only spam. I will rewrite add more pics and post again

Dave
05-12-2010, 10:30 PM
Moved to Detailing Business Talk section and stickied. Great info here!

sal329
05-13-2010, 05:39 PM
Update http://greensboro.craigslist.org/aos/1739761618.html

doctordon
05-13-2010, 06:12 PM
Sal -WOW that looks great! Your competition doesn't have a chance.
I wish you the best of luck with your new Craig's List campaign.

sal329
05-14-2010, 04:05 AM
Thank you very much and Anthony thank you for the awesome info

Dave
05-14-2010, 07:33 PM
Looks very professional and explains your services well. Good luck!

Dave
09-07-2011, 01:08 AM
Sal, how did this work out for you?

sal329
09-07-2011, 06:39 AM
I had 2 calls that was it and they said my prices are too high. I since have not advertised anywhere just created my site and then registered with Google and I have had better business

Dave
09-07-2011, 06:00 PM
The craigslist ads here are all super cheap guys who can't spell lol

sal329
09-09-2011, 04:24 AM
The ads here are about the same lol. One sentence ads, there is a mobile guy around here but there are no pics of his work or a website, few car washes offering details....