School me on ZFX

[Dave]

Is it a cure time accelerator only or is it supposed to enhance the look as well? I've used Z-2 and Z-3 but never with ZFX.

[detaildoc]

Hey Dave, ZFX is just a cure accelerator, doesn't add anything to the look.

[Dave]

Thanks, I'm curious about using ZFX with Z-2 and Wet Glaze together. I have some ZFX on the way to do some testing.

[Merlin]

Thanks, I'm curious about using ZFX with Z-2 and Wet Glaze together. I have some ZFX on the way to do some testing.

I personally don't want to apply Z-2, wait for it to haze (BTW- It takes longer to haze without ZFX), remove then have to wait 12-24 hours to before I can apply another coat. I mix up a batch of Z-2 with ZFX then apply, let haze and remove 3 times all within a 3-4 hour time frame and I'm done. For me ZFX is a huge time saver. I want to try it in combo with Wet Glaze 2.0.
FYI - I just recently tried Wet Glaze 2.0 for the first time and fell in love with the ease of use and the look it delivered! My personal Rating = 5 Stars!

Marketing::
Website quote: "ZFX™ is a Zaino Show Car Polish cross-linking and acceleration additive. It offers near-instant cure time, reduced surface distortion, enhanced polish flexibility, and improved bonding to both paint and additional layers of Show Car Polish. In simple terms, ZFX™ vastly improves paint surface appearance and increases polish durability."

ZFX Flash Cure Accelerator Additive:
IMO This is a must have! It's easier, faster and dramatically cuts down curing time for Z2 and Z5. To use take one of the 2 oz. mixing containers that comes with the ZFX. Fill up the mixing container 1/4 of the way with Z-2 or Z-5 polish. Use the ZFX dropper bottle and put in 3 drops of ZFX in the mixing container if its not that humid out and pretty sunny, or 4 or 5 drops if its humid and/or cloudy out. Take the Zaino polish and fill the mixer bottle up another 1/4 of the way so its 1/2 full with polish (one ounce). Shake the bottle for two minutes so the ZFX and polish mix really well, then let it sit for five minutes while you get your other stuff ready.

After it sits then shake it up again really quick before you start applying it. By the time you are finished doing the entire vehicle, you should be ready to buff it off. If the polish smears it's not dry enough, next time use another drop of ZFX. Let the vehicle sit for another 15 minutes or so then check back again. It should take about one ounce of polish to do three coats on the entire vehicle. The first time you use it you may want to mix up a little more than one ounce (1/2 bottle) so you don't run out and you get the hang of spreading it thin. I lightly mist the supplied applicator pad with water and rub it in then a couple of small lines of Z-2 w/ZFX to prime the applicator pad before I begin.

After you buff it off, then use Z-6 and go over the vehicle. Then mix up another bottle of polish with ZFX and start again. You should not do any more than three coats in 24 hours because the polish needs time to cross link.

Cleaning up:
You always have to wash your mixing containers after you mix the polish with ZFX so it doesn't dry in there. just get some dishwashing soap (a small quirt of Dawn original) and warm water and clean them out. Better yet fill the mixing bottle half full of IPA. After shaking it up in the bottle I open the tip and shake it out of the opening to clean it out. I then take a paper towel or detailing stick and wipe clean the inside of the bottle. It's a little PITA sometimes, but it keeps the mixing bottle clean and gunk free.

The Plan:
Per Dave's suggestion, apply/remove Z-2 on clean, polished paint. Then apply/remove Wet Glaze 2.0. Repeat for a total of 3 times.

Results:
IMHO Z-2 gives a long lasting, very shiny appearance but in IMHO can be slightly sterile. Wet Glaze 2.0 gives a deep, sparkling "Wet Look". The results I'm hoping by combining the two products is a glossy, deep, "Wet Look" shine like not other. I'll post my results when I get a chance to try it out.

[Dave]

Merlin, It will be interseting to see your results. I think I'll do the opposite by applying the WG2.0 first followed by ZFX/Z-2 and so on.


The test I did back in October with Z-2/WG and Z-3/WG proved to be outstanding combos. ZFX added to the mix should be the same but faster. Originally I thought ZFX was kind of like a polycharger type product.

[sal329]

Why not try Duragloss 601 same concept cheaper price

[Dave]

Why not try Duragloss 601 same concept cheaper price


For my intended purposes I want to stick with the recomended system. I'll also be polishing with Z-PC Fusion before hand and using Z-6 only within the steps.


Back in October I did a Z-2/WG2.0 combo and a Z-3/WG2.0 combo and had great results. I was recently asked about this combo with ZFX thrown in which I haven't done.

[Merlin]

Merlin, It will be interseting to see your results. I think I'll do the opposite by applying the WG2.0 first followed by ZFX/Z-2 and so on

did you get a chance to try WG 2.0 under z-2/ZFX yet?

[Dave]

did you get a chance to try WG 2.0 under z-2/ZFX yet?

I was going to try yesterday but I was short on time and ended up applying one coat of UPP just as the customer arrived. Didn't even have a chance to get final shots for a write up.

Hopefully soon as I have several combs to test and little time.

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[Merlin]

For my intended purposes I want to stick with the recomended system. I'll also be polishing with Z-PC Fusion before hand and using Z-6 only within the steps.

Back in October I did a Z-2/WG2.0 combo and a Z-3/WG2.0 combo and had great results. I was recently asked about this combo with ZFX thrown in which I haven't done.

Did you get a change to try the combo?
What were your results?

[Dave]

I haven't :cry:

I'll make an effort to due a small section of my Durango this afternoon for testing. I'll break it up as described. I have several other tests to do as well but my time is very limited these days. With two companies I have to man almost full time and continuing my education in Polymer Science time is limited :mad: I'm not even on the forums as much as I should be.

[Dave]

Tonight I started experimenting with the WG2.0 Z-2 combo. Here is what I have done so far.

I stripped the previous lsp with System X Pre-Clean and clay

Polished with Z-PC Fusion Dual Action Paint Cleaner Swirl Remover on speed 5 with a Griot's Garage Polisher and 5.5" Buff & Shine green Polishing pad.

System X Pre-Clean one more time to ensure a clean surface

Tape on the rear hatch to divide into 4 working areas


8-28-11

Zaino Z-2 Base

Far Left Side: Applied Z-2, removed after 20 minutes. Left Z-2 to cure overnight.

Middle Left Side: Applied Z-2, removed after 20 minutes. Left Z-2 to cure overnight.



Wet Glaze 2.0 Base

Middle Right Side: Applied WG2.0, removed after 5 minutes, applied Z-2, removed after 20 minutes. Left Z-2 to cure.

Far Right Side: Applied WG2.0, removed after 5 minutes, applied ZFX/Z-2, removed after 30 minutes.




It turned dark quick so I will resume testing this week plus I need the Z-2 to fully cure before I apply additional layers. I'll update this with pictures as I continue to layer.

[Merlin]

It turned dark quick so I will resume testing this week plus I need the Z-2 to fully cure before I apply additional layers. I'll update this with pictures as I continue to layer.

Well how did it turn out?

I have a couple of folks that have light swirling and they really don't want to spend the time, money or effort needed to do a full polish paint correction.

If I could do 3 coats of Wet Glaze 2.0 (to fill & enhance gloss) followed by 3 coats of Z-2 with ZFX (to seal) in a single afternoon that would be great!

I'm looking forward to the results.

[sal329]

Well how did it turn out?

I have a couple of folks that have light swirling and they really don't want to spend the time, money or effort needed to do a full polish paint correction.

If I could do 3 coats of Wet Glaze 2.0 (to fill & enhance gloss) followed by 3 coats of Z-2 with ZFX (to seal) in a single afternoon that would be great!

I'm looking forward to the results.

Why not a 1 step like Meg D151? Or use something like Prima Amigo (cleans, slight polish and fills)?

[Dave]

Well how did it turn out?

I have a couple of folks that have light swirling and they really don't want to spend the time, money or effort needed to do a full polish paint correction.

If I could do 3 coats of Wet Glaze 2.0 (to fill & enhance gloss) followed by 3 coats of Z-2 with ZFX (to seal) in a single afternoon that would be great!

I'm looking forward to the results.

The look was the same no matter how I applied it. Good depth and very glossy. I don't know durability at this point.

I would definitely do the WG2.0 layers first for filling purposes. I don't have the car today but I'll try and snap a few pics tomorrow.

[Merlin]

I just did a 2011 white Dodge Challenger and I applied three coats of Wet Glaze 2.0 under three coats of Z-2 with ZFX.
I looked at the garage floor and could not find any spots where the Z-2 didn't stick to the WG 2.0 and poured off onto the floor. (GRIN)
All funnin' aside...Time will tell about the durability but my first impression is that this combo will work fine with no issues.

[Merlin]

Here's a pic

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc140/merlinhd03/Detail/Steve/BlackFront.jpg

[Dave]

Looks great! I still haven't snapped pics but yours sum it up.